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10 common electric fencing mistakes

James Nason, 26/06/2015
Mike Thomas is a senior field day demonstrator and trainer with Gallagher, working at all major field days in Australia. He also runs an irrigated lucerne and cattle fattening operation "in his spare time". He has over 30 years experience in the fencing field, originally as a fencing contractor.

Mike Thomas is a senior field day demonstrator and trainer with Gallagher, working at all major field days in Australia. He also runs an irrigated lucerne and cattle fattening operation “in his spare time”. He has over 30 years experience in the fencing field, originally as a fencing contractor.

 

WITH more than 30 years of electric fencing experience under his belt, NSW fencing demonstrator and cattle producer Mike Thomas has seen just about every fencing mistake there is to see.

He has built electric fencing to contain everything from elephants to worms (seriously! more on that below), and has has used electric fencing in almost every conceivable application to keep livestock in and pest species out.

Mike says there is no single environment where electric fencing will not work effectively, provided people avoid common mistakes and don’t take short cuts.

Beef Central spent some time with Mike at the FarmFest field days near Toowoomba earlier this month where he was giving practical advice on electric fencing and demonstrations at the Gallagher site.

We asked him to tell us about some of the more common mistakes he sees people make with electric fencing, and he was only too happy to oblige.

In fact he immediately produced a small container holding various odds and ends which he uses at field days to illustrate some of the more regular problems he encounters.

Polypipe is a no-no

The first item he produces is short, thin piece of polypipe.

As a cost saving measure he said people will often cut polypipe into short lengths to use as insulators around steel posts for example.

“They twitch it onto a steelie and they either twitch it on too tight and it pierces through and shorts out, or they don’t do it tight enough, and the thing vibrates loose and the live wire shorts out.

“Another problem with polypipe is that it has carbon in it.

“If you get enough of it, you can have significant powerloss problems. So polypipe is a no-no.”

Not all plastic insulators are equal

He then produced a string of black plastic insulators tied together, representing many of the various makes currently on the market.

Presented side by side, the clear differences that exist in strength and durability between the various brands are obvious.

Some use thin and flimsy pins to secure live wires which would seem unlikely to last out several months let alone the several years that would be expected.

Another he pointed out uses conical shaped locking pins to secure the wire in place. The shape of the pin means it is all but impossible to ensure the pin will stay in place no matter how much pressure is used to force it into the holes that are meant to secure it. “Eventually that pin will vibrate free, releasing the live wire and causing a short,” Mike explains.

Some however are sturdy and use solid locking pins that lock in place and must be physically turned before they can be released.

“If you are going to use plastics, at least use good ones,” Mike says.

Porcelain beats plastic

He advises the use of porcelain over plastic insulators where possible.

Porcelain insulators do not break down over time with sunlight, do not melt in fires and are more robust in standing up to feral animal pressure.

Porcelain insulators may cost about the twice as much as plastic insulators, but over the time they are cost less because of their durability, Mike says.

“At the end of the day, the cost of insulators along a kilometre of fence is negligible, the main cost is in your wire and your posts,” Mike said. “The accessories that go into it are only a very small part of the entire cost so you might as well do it properly.”

Bad connections

As with any electrical circuit, if you don’t have good connections you won’t achieve an effective current flow.

Most people know how little corrosion it takes on a battery terminal to stop a vehicle from starting.

Here is one tip Mike offers to ensure good, long lasting connections and to also save some money.

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At the end of a fence assembly such as this example pictured above, people would normally run an insulated cable from the top live wire to the bottom live wire.

Mike’s tip is to leave a long tail on the live wire after tying it off to the insulator, and then run the tail down and through a steel post insulator to bypass the middle earth wire, before joining it onto the bottom live wire using one clamp (as pictured below).

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All it has cost to complete the connection is one clamp and one steel post insulator.

Mike follows a similar technique with the earth wire.

He leaves a tail on an earth wire after it is tied off at the top of the steel post and then runs it down the post (as shown below left and below centre), and then joins it to the bottom most earth wire bottom with a single clamp (as shown in focus bottom left)

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This system not only helps people to ensure good connections but which also saves them some money at the same time.

Corrosive clamps

If you are going to use clamps make sure they are galvanised, Mike advises.

Zinc plated and alloyed clamps will corrode which will diminish the connection over time.

Clamps also need to work under tension to ensure a good connection so choosing well-made clamps is important.

Beware copper wire

A similar fault Mike often sees is people opting to use insulated copper cable instead of galvanised.

When galvanised wire is joined to galvanised wire there are no issues with electrolosis.

“But if you join copper to gal, you have a major problem with electrolosis and three months down the track the whole thing just turns to custard.”

Underpowered energisers

“You only one chance to give a good first impression,” Mike says.

An electric fence needs a degree of physical strength but its primary purpose is to serve as psychological barrier.

Mike says many people tend to under power their fence by choosing a smaller energizer at first with the intention of increasing the power as they extend their electric fence over time.

Mike reckons choosing a bigger energizer at the start is important to ensure a fence has the power it needs to work through vegetation growth and deliver an effective training shock to the animal.

“You need an energizer that has the guts to brown the moisture out of the offending competition as it grows around the live wires. A big energizer will overcome that.”

Think of electricity as water

When considering how electricity moves along a fence, it pays to think of the wire as pipes and the electricity as water, Mike says.

A common strategy when people wire an electric fence and arrive at a gate opening is to tap off one live wire, run it under the gateway, and then spread it into two wires on the other side.

If that was water, what would happen?

The water would be split from one pipe into two, and only half the flow would travel along each pipe. The more times that is repeated, the more times the volume would be halved in each ensuing pipe.

When a tap is turned on near the end, the flow would be very small.

“With electricity it is the same. We need to be able to push current flow down the line so that when an animal touches it or growth comes up on the fenceline the pressure is there – pressure for us is voltage.”

He recommends wiring in parallel to dramatically boost the conductivity of the system and ensure each length of fence has the power to work through growth and to reach animals effectively.

Inadequate earthing

“Earthing is half the deal,” Mike says. “But a lot of people do not understand the importance of the earth side of the system.”

Half of the task with electric fencing is to get power to the animal, and people go to the expense of insulating wires and doing that properly, Mike says. However, they then neglect the importance of getting the power back to energizer to complete the circuit.

The animal is simply the switch in the system bridging live to earth,” he said.

There are two ways of getting the current back to the energizer. One is back through the ground via moisture in the soil, which is picked up by a series of earth stakes connected to the earth terminal unit, creating a circuit.

But when conditions become dry, Mike says, there is no ability to get the power back and animals can just walk straight through.

For that reason he suggests that people run earth wires.

He explains:

“What happens is the animal comes back in and touches the live wire. They mightn’t get much shock in the middle of a drought, then they go a little bit further and touch the earth wire, which is connected all the way home to the energizer earth terminal. The circuit happens within the fence, even with the animal’s feet off the ground they still cop an effective shock.”

Wire gauge: Bigger is better

Wire gauge is vitally important, Mike says. As a rule he recommends 2.5mm [12.5 gauge] wire which has 35 ohms resistance/km. “It is reasonably strong, visible and conductive,” he said.

“Two of these wired in parallel (joined together at each end of every strain) will halve the fence resistance, therefore doubling the current flow, so it stands to reason that the more live wires one has in the fence all wired in this fashion, the more effective kilometres of fence you will effectively power from the energiser.

“If you needed to travel a long distances, with say one live wire, it would be advisable to increase the wire gauge to something like 4.0mm, (8 gauge) which has only 14 ohms resistance/km, equal to running two and a half, 2.5mm wires.”

“Gallagher supply aluminium coated high tensile which is better again at 11ohms/km.

“In summary bigger is better. Always use high tensile wire if feral, or wild animals are an issue – greater strength which equates to less maintenance.”

In summary

Asked if there are any environments he has encountered where electric fencing will not work, he says is yet to see one.

“You get the right fence design, do the job properly, don’t take shortcuts and put a good high powered energizer on it, you will get a result,” he said.

He should know – he has literally controlled everything from worms to elephants using electric fencing.

Worms?

“A bloke had a worm farm on a property at Taree and he wanted to keep worms in a confined area,” Mike explained.

“It was very simple really, all we did was pegged a live wire to the ground, and it has obviously shorted out, we put a pretty high powered energizer on it, and the worms will not go outside the electric field we created.”

So how does the worm farmer muster his worms? “With a wormy horse,” Mike answers without missing a beat.

Elephants were just one of many species Mike had to control with electric fencing when he helped to fence the then brand new Western Plains Zoo near Dubbo back in the 1980s.

Mike’s overall tip is simply this: “Don’t take this cheap method of fencing and cheapen it further by taking shortcuts.”

“The main reason a lot of people are taking the electric track is because of cost reasons,” he says.

“For roughly a third to half the cost you will buy and construct an electric fence that is the equivalent of a non-electrified fence.

“When you do it properly you will start to control animals that you never dreamt of controlling.”

 

 

 

 

 

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Comments

  1. Linda Shobe, 23/04/2023

    I may have unfortunately found an environment where an electric fence will not work.
    We have a screened in back patio. We also have to large dogs (labs) that will jump thru the screening when a squirrel or other invader is seen. The plan was to run a wire inside the screens around the perimeter of the patio. A second wire could easily run outside the patio into the ground. We’ve bought all the equipment…ready to start the project and my husband just had a revelation. Our patio is cement slab. Concrete does not conduct electricity. We cannot think of another way around this.
    Any suggestions?

  2. Lyn Eather, 07/11/2022

    Can you advise the best design for an over wire system for over a gateway?

  3. James R. Dias, 19/08/2022

    I am new to farming and ran a two strand. While running the new wire I did find some older wire that was left over and it was in good shape. The new wire I ran is the 12.5g the older wire is a smaller gauge. After completing the line and connecting one to a starting point and the other end to the “the red connector” and the ground to the rod in the ground I still have no power. There several corners that I had to navigate where connectors could not be used. I used a rubber hose to go around the outside of the corner making sure that the new wire touched nothing else. Any suggestions?

    Sincerely

    Stumped

  4. lee, 15/01/2022

    With the wire gauge.. instead of parallel why do you not run it in series to reduce resistance? also id assume with the vertical wires making it less likely for an animal running at full clip to pass thru or attempt it? Is there any particular reason? Im designing my own system an running thru a few variables.. mine is for big cats and also thieves that are notorious in the location.. most neighbors have a death threat notice on their fences and gates at this point lol. An so Im trying to make it something they wont monkey with.. and also make it so they dont see it as worth the effort to try and take down and sell. So the bigger the gauge or the more pricier the components may actually draw more attention lol.

  5. Barend Joubert, 20/12/2021

    Please let me have the recommended wiring diagram of an electric fence for cattle and security.
    Thx
    B

  6. Kevin Parr Bt, 13/04/2021

    I am a pensioner having built at great expensive a set of English garden rooms over half acre of outside border of my land and hedged in 3 foot tall Thuja green emerald plants .No sign of damage for two years now deer have invaded and made a great lot of damage to all my plants. I live now in Europe Latvia EU .Customs duty on all none EU parcels so it is difficult to buy a customs made electric fence two lines and solar .I can set that up outside me 5 foot high wire fence and save my work being destroyed

  7. Niva, 16/03/2021

    Good morning

    My electric fence goes off almost at the same time everyday – between 9.30 and 10am.

    Please advise if there is generally a timer on electric fences or what the issue could possibly be.

    Looking forward to your response.
    Thanks

  8. Leza, 08/12/2020

    We are putting hot wire through cattle rail post. What can we use to insulate the hole in the post? Rubber grommets are not thick enough. So rubber irrigation hose seems think enough 4ml. Will rubber burn through in time and then short out on post?

  9. Robyn, 19/09/2020

    Have recently had an electric fence energiser stolen from a fence line on a secondary road.
    Any ideas as to prevent the new one being stolen..

  10. Don McNeill, 17/07/2019

    I only need to contain two of our neighbours alpacas for about two months. The length is only 150m. I am wondering about roos, whether they will demolish it unwittingly. Alpacas seem pretty binine and was wondering if just one wire and earth would do it. Appreciate any comments.
    Don.

  11. James kerr, 10/07/2019

    What ideas would you have for electric fencing over many km to keep out wild dogs and kangas,plastic droppers tied to existing posts,how many wires and spacing

    • Bruce McDougall, 01/03/2021

      I want to construct some paddocks of approx fifteen to twenty acres but am concerned about wild dogs and live close to a town.
      Am thinking of a six foot fence to exclude dogs and foxes with a live wire and earth wire alternatively but am unsure of the spacing.
      Are you able to provide details on how the fence should be constructed? Thank you for your assistance.

  12. Jen Tracy, 25/06/2019

    Looking for advise. I have a Cattle dog that has decided that the house yard fence is now a good thing to jump. My fence is 100mtrs of chicken wire with a plane top wire. I need to contain her. Advise would be greatly appreciated.

  13. Steven handy, 22/06/2017

    Hi, we have an electric fence which is interfering with our CCTV cameras, do u know how far the cameras need to be away from the electrical field. Thanks.

    • Colin Kindred, 22/12/2019

      Watch coupling of earths. Try earthing the fence further away from the domestic power board earth.(separate and close to the fence).

  14. Clyde waterman, 08/11/2015

    Great commonsense words and illustrations thanks

    • Ian Collyer, 20/06/2022

      Can i run a electric fence earth system in the ground close to plastic water pipes

  15. John Colless Wetherby Station Mount Molloy, 27/06/2015

    Good on you Mike and great to catch up with you at BEEF 2015 where you were very busy demonstrating and getting the good tips over to your many groups there.
    Your 10 tips for better electric fencing are spot on and I believe will help folk to get the best out of their systems, based on your lifetime of experience.

    Best regards
    John Colless

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